1985: Al Noor Mosque
March 1, 2021
By AHNZ
Al Noor Mosque, Christchurch, which I translate to Mosque of The Light.
Built by MAC (Muslim Association of Canterbury) in 1985 and for 15 years the most southern mosque in the world. The Muslim community in Canterbury is concentrated in Christchurch with Al Noor the major centre. The initial builder community was South Asian, coming to New Zealand in small numbers from 1960s and 70s.
This imported conflict, in turn, attracted another: Brenton Tarrant with his drone-aided and police-licensed terror attack in 2019. He wanted to raise awareness and wake people up to the brewing conflict.
“This “ambush” shows the tension between the old and the new streams in the Government Refugee Program. The State probably thought (if it thought at all) that chucking all the Mohammedians in the same box would work out just fine.”- Anarkiwi
”We are fighting for the real refugees,” he said. But the CRRC leadership described those excluded as “troublemakers”. – Police called to calm tensions at Christchurch refugee event, Stuff (2020)
The Government thinks it can just pile up conflicting factions of refugees with ancient adversarial faiths and, here in New Zealand, they’ll just melt into one big get-along scene. History shows otherwise.
I guess the New Zealand politicians concerned thought they’d be rewarded with United Nations posts or something for taking in refugees. By the time the damage and conflict flared up from these acts a Jenny Shipley or a Helen Clark would be long gone from any mess they made.
Getting more Hard Core?
However, in the 1990s a new ethnic group came along to become predominant causing some transitional friction. National 4.0 boosted New Zealand’s refugee intake leading to traumatised Arab and Somali people¹ holding sway in this community who held more hard-core and radical Islamic visions than the more mild Asians they displaced. At the same time (2003,) the Muslim leaders were reaching out to convert New Zealanders to their faith which included a particular initiative toward Maoris.²
Gamal Al Banna, Al Noor’s Top Guy
Gamal Mokhtar Mohamed Ali Fouda (aka Gamal Al Banna) became Imam, the top man or, pastor, to Al Noor in 2014 and remains so to this day. As befitting the new congregation, he is an Egyptian. Al Banna’s background is as a religious bureaucrat for the Egyptian State within the non-secular Ministry in control of some $40 billion in assets. In Egypt community assets like, I don’t know, playgrounds and churches and parks etc are presided over by religio-statist clerics whereas in New Zealand we would have an Incorporated Society or Trust formed by the people and simply rubber stamped legally. Al Banna was assigned by Sharia Egypt to New Zealand in 2003. Since then Al Banna has become a practising primary school teacher, his registration lapsing only a couple of years back. He seems to have been sent as a support guy for the new traumatised Middle-Eastern/African majority of Cantab Muslims. It may be he was sent to clean house after the 2003-2014 tensions. His public message keeps urging the public that Islam is a religion of peace and not to mistake it for the misdeeds of the few.
Back in 2014
News came out during Al Banna’s first year, 2014, that the years leading up had been tainted with some extremism. That was 5 years back and perhaps over and done with, perhaps with thanks to Al Banna. But here are some examples of that prior history of extremism…
Havard told his parents it was during his time at the Christchurch mosque that he first encountered radical Islam.
“When he moved into the mosque he realised what they were trying to convert people to. That’s when he left and went to Dunedin. He didn’t agree with what they were teaching,” they said.- ABC, June 2014
This story was also reported in New Zealand in The Press as Drone victims ‘radicalised’ at mosque. Convert Muslims, Australian Christopher Havard and Kiwi/Aussie Daryl Jones, met at the Christchurch mosque while it was run by Al Banna’s predecessor, Hisham el Zeiny. The above claims by family are contradicted by commentators, the mosque community, and Police. The al Qaeda-linked men were both killed by the Yanks in a drone strike in Nov 2013 in Yemen. Of course grieving parents notoriously look for someone or something to blame beyond themselves. And just because two terrorists used Christchurch facilities as they were passing through does not implicate anyone beyond themselves.
Aotearoa Muslim is proud to support Isis
Aaron Tahuhu, a fundamentalist Muslim, says he is one of more than a dozen people in Christchurch who have similar beliefs.- Stuff, Nov 2014
Is this all bluster or is Aaron for real? He says our public have nothing to fear from his little cell yet has close contacts with New Zealand’s enemies in the Middle East.
Prime Minister John Key this week said up to 80 Kiwis were being monitored over their links to Islamic State, which has called for lone wolf-style terrorist attacks on Western targets…Some were fighting in Syria and an unknown number, from a watch list of up to 40, wanted to take up arms there.- ibid
“About two years ago, disillusioned with Christianity, he converted to Islam at the Christchurch mosque on Deans Ave,” Stuff reports. Like Christopher Havard above, Tahuhu has a history of offending. In Havard’s case, it was the judicial penalty of Community Service that may have first introduced him to the mosque where he served it.
Summing Up
Nothing delved into here implicates the Christchurch Mosque community at all. Considering they’ve had to support each other through some very volatile transitions to a new country followed by the Quake it seems to me that they’re ahead of the game when it comes to support and peace. I knew before I started researching the above that nothing I could find would ever justify the 2019 Christchurch Massacre.
Because such things as the above are not being talked about though I wanted to find out for myself and share the results. It’s a very unthinking and desperate standard to blame this mosque for being open to misuse by criminals, twits, or killers. Just because a person like that uses a library or the internet or guns or telephones doesn’t taint those things either. I hope people remember that when they come for our Free Speech and our guns as we fear The State is warming itself up to do in the impending blow-back to the Tarrant rampage.
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Note: “The 2006 census recorded 37,000 Muslims in total”
Note: the 2013 census recorded that “the Muslim community in Canterbury is concentrated in Christchurch…over 3,000 people living here who practice the Islamic faith.”
2 ref. Al Noor Mosque, Christchurch; wiki
Image ref. Aaron Tahuhu, fundamentalist Muslim; KIRK HARGREAVES photo; Stuff 2014
Image ref. Beautiful Mosques Pictures
Reposted from NZB3 (2019)
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Well written
Thanks mate
I’m not sure when Gamal Fouda went to Christchurch. But I do know that he was still in Palmerston North during June of 2015 (see https://islamnz.com/history/archives/RamadanStarts2015.jpg). You refer to him as “Gamal Al Banna”, which I find puzzling. Although I have been a member of his congregation, and know him personally, I have never heard that alias being used. It makes sense, however, as Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, was also an Egyptian schoolteacher. On the subject of the “Christchurch shootings”: They are clearly a hoax. The official narrative is full of glaring anomalies and inconsistencies. Not least of these is the loitering of at least six members of the congregation outside the prayer hall — and, in three cases, outside the mosque itself — at the start of the Salat al-Jumu’ah. These “loiterers” include Farid Ahmed, who claims he was still in another room. This simply doesn’t happen in Islam. Lots of people don’t attend the prayers, for one reason or another. But if they do go to the mosque at noon (or thereabouts) on a Friday, they are at pains to be present when the prayers start. (See https://chchtruth.com for more information on this matter.)
A hoax? As in..the people killed are just pretending?
The “live stream” of the “shooting” in Al Noor Mosque has been analyzed by a number of people with knowledge and experience in the field of firearms and ballistics. All have concluded the “gunman” is not firing a real AR-15, as it causes neither injuries to people nor damage to walls, windows, etc. In one instance, he fires point-blank at the head of a worshiper in one of the two pre-positioned heaps of “bodies” in the main prayer room. All that happens is that the man’s cap is blown off. This is not to say that no one died — or, more likely, disappeared — on March 15, 2019, but that we have seen no real evidence that people died. If you have any real evidence, i.e. something more substantial than the testimonies of “survivors” and “witnesses”, we will definitely include it in the material presented at Christchurch Truth. We would also like to hear opinions on the Linwood video, which purports to show worshipers’ reactions in the immediate aftermath of a shooting.
Crikey mate. I’ve always found it odd that the police who caught the shooter were freshly (same day, as I recall) upskilled in police vehicle pursuits; Exactly what they needed to do when that moment came. This, at a time when such police pursuits had become very controversial and the police had committed to a moratorium on just such things (innocent people were being killed in the process.) Yet here they were studying the art.
So it would be interesting to know if they were just a couple of regular Joes on the beat who we were at high school with. Or, never seen again because they’re Mission Impossible henchmen?
Also, cui bono? Ardern’s Ministry ran with it but didn’t get much out of it. The police were embarrassed. Hate Speech and gun laws haven’t changed drastically. Ernst Blofeld doesn’t get points over the deaths of some local Muslim folks, especially if it’s not a public ‘victory’. Didn’t start a war. Can’t see the point. Whereas, Brenton Tarrant had a point but failed to get his message/manifesto communicated.
Actually, there’s nothing odd in a police drill morphing into reality — to such an extent it’s difficult to tease the two apart. This is how the perpetrators of “synthetic terror” (as opposed to “organic terror”) operate, and has been fairly standard practice since 9/11. As Wikipedia says: “Out of a range of scenarios being run on September 11, 2001, one was a ‘traditional’ simulated hijacking. According to General Eberhart, after the first attack, ‘it took about 30 seconds’ to make the adjustment to the real-world situation.” This was also the case in the 7/7 London Underground bombings. On the morning of that day, Peter Power, of Visor Consultants, was running an exercise that simulated bombs exploding at the same time, at the same stations, as the real bombs allegedly detonated by Muslim terrorists. The main difference between those early attacks and those staged more recently is that, these days, the perps prefer to use fake victims, so that they can stage-manage the entire event. Fast-forward to March 15: The video of the Al Noor “shooting” is such a sloppy job, German historian Wolfgang Eggert has said: “It was a ‘drill film’. It was only meant to be seen and analyzed by the agents of the drill-team training on the 15th of March for a virtual terror incident . . . ” Much the same could be said about the video of the “arrest” of Tarrant. This video, made by someone in a passing car, shows a man who doesn’t look like Tarrant being dragged on his back from a rammed vehicle and then being flipped on to his front. But you can tell from the floppy way in which the body falls that it’s a dummy. Later, back at Al Noor, the “body” of Indian student Ansi Alibava, as photographed at the entrance to the alley, no longer has a head, and a metal or plastic tube protrudes from the torso where the head formerly fitted on. Crikey indeed!
Thanks for bringing in this angle to my history post.